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	<description>The everyday offering’s of Pastor Jason Martin</description>
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		<title>Comment on About by Preston Holt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston Holt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am thrilled that I have &quot;stumbled&quot; across your personal website.  I couldn&#039;t begin to retrace the steps taken as I wandered through various FB pages that ultimately brought me to this place.  I am glad I didn&#039;t take a left somewhere along the journey that would have taken me in the opposite direction of meeting you.  

I am not a proponent of circumstance, of happen chance.  I take the Word of God literally when it speaks of the steps of a man being ordered by God.  I fully believe and whole-heartedly accept that God knew that my wanderings would lead me to your FB page which would also lead me to your personal website.

Following your birth place to your college choices, I can certainly identify with where you have been.  I have family in Rome, an aunt and 4 cousins.... lived just a few miles down the road from Brewton Parker while in med tech school and have friends that are currently or have been affiliated with BCF.  See, you are not a stranger and this world is not such a huge place.

I will be reading with great interest your blogs.  I feel God has brought you into my life for such a time as this.  I am excited about the possibilities.  While personal failures will forever prevent me from again entering full time ministry, my heart will always be closely attached and will always find me on the fringes of supportive ministry.

One last thought.... it takes more than one to be fertile!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am thrilled that I have &#8220;stumbled&#8221; across your personal website.  I couldn&#8217;t begin to retrace the steps taken as I wandered through various FB pages that ultimately brought me to this place.  I am glad I didn&#8217;t take a left somewhere along the journey that would have taken me in the opposite direction of meeting you.  </p>
<p>I am not a proponent of circumstance, of happen chance.  I take the Word of God literally when it speaks of the steps of a man being ordered by God.  I fully believe and whole-heartedly accept that God knew that my wanderings would lead me to your FB page which would also lead me to your personal website.</p>
<p>Following your birth place to your college choices, I can certainly identify with where you have been.  I have family in Rome, an aunt and 4 cousins&#8230;. lived just a few miles down the road from Brewton Parker while in med tech school and have friends that are currently or have been affiliated with BCF.  See, you are not a stranger and this world is not such a huge place.</p>
<p>I will be reading with great interest your blogs.  I feel God has brought you into my life for such a time as this.  I am excited about the possibilities.  While personal failures will forever prevent me from again entering full time ministry, my heart will always be closely attached and will always find me on the fringes of supportive ministry.</p>
<p>One last thought&#8230;. it takes more than one to be fertile!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Missional Golf by Bud Mcclerkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Mcclerkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really is a genuinely beneficial website. Many thanks for sharing! I&#039;ve place your RSS feed into my website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really is a genuinely beneficial website. Many thanks for sharing! I&#8217;ve place your RSS feed into my website.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Missional Golf by Rudolf Coggeshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudolf Coggeshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, neat work! Happy I came by your post first to have read this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, neat work! Happy I came by your post first to have read this!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Template for Shepherding your family Well by Roosevelt Mazon</title>
		<link>http://www.abelsoffering.net/?p=160#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Roosevelt Mazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess there are loads of somebodies like me, who happen across assorted great blogs or websites by fortune. Your web log seems to have a good community and a sound blogosphere presence.  Its good to have interesting and contrary views on issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there are loads of somebodies like me, who happen across assorted great blogs or websites by fortune. Your web log seems to have a good community and a sound blogosphere presence.  Its good to have interesting and contrary views on issues.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shattered Shame by air jordan 17</title>
		<link>http://www.abelsoffering.net/?p=129#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>air jordan 17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 07:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice going!Is wonderful?</description>
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		<title>Comment on A Template for Shepherding your family Well by Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.abelsoffering.net/?p=160#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 13:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juliann,  You are more than welcome to repeat anything I have said in any of my blogs, and you don&#039;t have to give me credit.  I don&#039;t blog much, since I am not sure that much of what I have to say merits posting, but you are welcome to any of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juliann,  You are more than welcome to repeat anything I have said in any of my blogs, and you don&#8217;t have to give me credit.  I don&#8217;t blog much, since I am not sure that much of what I have to say merits posting, but you are welcome to any of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Template for Shepherding your family Well by Juliann Blackmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliann Blackmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 03:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,this is Juliann Blackmore,just found your Blog on google and i must say this blog is great.may I quote some of the Post found in this blog to my local buddies?i&#039;m not sure and what you think?in any case,Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,this is Juliann Blackmore,just found your Blog on google and i must say this blog is great.may I quote some of the Post found in this blog to my local buddies?i&#8217;m not sure and what you think?in any case,Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Facebook:  A Perspective from a Fan by Christian R. Mattison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian R. Mattison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was referred to this article by a mutual friend after expressing some of my frustrations with Face Book.  As a pastor I have found the issues that come with interaction on FB to be legion.  I must say that you have addressed many of those issues wonderfully.  Thank you for reminding us of the center of the Lord that should guide us along the way. And God Bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was referred to this article by a mutual friend after expressing some of my frustrations with Face Book.  As a pastor I have found the issues that come with interaction on FB to be legion.  I must say that you have addressed many of those issues wonderfully.  Thank you for reminding us of the center of the Lord that should guide us along the way. And God Bless you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Missional Golf by Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, CJ, since God says that wine is a blessing of the Messianic Kingdom:
Is. 25:6 On this mountain the LORD of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of rich food, a feast of well-aged wine, of rich food full of marrow, of aged wine well refined.
I guess the whole &quot;Temple of the Holy Spirit&quot; thing wouldn&#039;t exclude us partaking in things that God calls a blessing.

It is immoderate drinking that the Bible condemns repeatedly, not the drink itself, and nowhere in scripture are we supposed to restrain ourselves from partaking in things simply because someone somewhere might over-indulge in it.  That argument, could be used to restrict us from doing just about anything.

The Bible does however, tell us that we should not use our freedoms to try to cause someone to do what their conscience forbids them from doing.  This would be for them to sin against their conscience, and could cause them a variety of trouble.  Interesting though, that the Bible does not use this argument to simply forbid us from exercising any of our freedoms.  And in the case of alcohol, it could have done just that.  Why, for crying our loud, did the Bible not simply give us clear, unambiguous language to say that the drinking of all alcoholic drink was unequivocally evil, if this is what God wanted us to know.  Why so many times does the Bible speak of wine as a good gift from God.  Why in the world would God speak out of two sides of his mouth.  The fact is, he doesn&#039;t.  He simply calls immoderate drinking what it is,...sin.

You are however, wrong, in your assumption that the Bible calls church leaders to a higher standard.  Every Christian is called to the standard of Christ-like godliness. Leaders, are simply judged more strictly, although the standard is the same, because we are often emulated in our behavior.  I have no problem whatsoever with anyone, of a like conscience, choosing to drink alcohol in a moderate, respectable way which maintains their christian dignity and glorifies God through the enjoyment of one of his many gifts.  If God created the natural processes through which grapes, grains, and other fruits can ferment, (this is scientifically demonstrated as naturally occurring in nature) then those processes will glorify him, and only the immoderate use of them would not.  &quot;Feeding the flesh&quot; is to partake in those things which the scripture forbids, and since it does not forbid the moderate use of alcoholic beverage, or good pipe tobacco for that matter, then I will smoke my piper and drink a cold Newcastle to the glory of God

If, however, God wanted Christian leaders not to drink, he would have told us, and when the apostle Paul had the perfect opportunity to restrict us from drinking alcoholic beverages at all, instead, he said that pastors and deacons should not be given to &quot;much&quot; wine.  I, sir, am not given to &quot;much&quot; wine, therefore, I am within the biblical standard and I will not try to be holier than the Bible.  And for the argument that good references to wine in the bible referred to non-alocholic grape juice, why in the world would God restrict pastors from drinking much grape juice?  It is actually quite good for the digestive system.

If the people in my care drink to excess, they will be accountable before God for their sinful behavior.  I am clear in my teaching that we are to appreciate the good gifts of God, without allowing those good gifts to become ultimate for us, which is sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, CJ, since God says that wine is a blessing of the Messianic Kingdom:<br />
Is. 25:6 On this mountain the LORD of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of rich food, a feast of well-aged wine, of rich food full of marrow, of aged wine well refined.<br />
I guess the whole &#8220;Temple of the Holy Spirit&#8221; thing wouldn&#8217;t exclude us partaking in things that God calls a blessing.</p>
<p>It is immoderate drinking that the Bible condemns repeatedly, not the drink itself, and nowhere in scripture are we supposed to restrain ourselves from partaking in things simply because someone somewhere might over-indulge in it.  That argument, could be used to restrict us from doing just about anything.</p>
<p>The Bible does however, tell us that we should not use our freedoms to try to cause someone to do what their conscience forbids them from doing.  This would be for them to sin against their conscience, and could cause them a variety of trouble.  Interesting though, that the Bible does not use this argument to simply forbid us from exercising any of our freedoms.  And in the case of alcohol, it could have done just that.  Why, for crying our loud, did the Bible not simply give us clear, unambiguous language to say that the drinking of all alcoholic drink was unequivocally evil, if this is what God wanted us to know.  Why so many times does the Bible speak of wine as a good gift from God.  Why in the world would God speak out of two sides of his mouth.  The fact is, he doesn&#8217;t.  He simply calls immoderate drinking what it is,&#8230;sin.</p>
<p>You are however, wrong, in your assumption that the Bible calls church leaders to a higher standard.  Every Christian is called to the standard of Christ-like godliness. Leaders, are simply judged more strictly, although the standard is the same, because we are often emulated in our behavior.  I have no problem whatsoever with anyone, of a like conscience, choosing to drink alcohol in a moderate, respectable way which maintains their christian dignity and glorifies God through the enjoyment of one of his many gifts.  If God created the natural processes through which grapes, grains, and other fruits can ferment, (this is scientifically demonstrated as naturally occurring in nature) then those processes will glorify him, and only the immoderate use of them would not.  &#8220;Feeding the flesh&#8221; is to partake in those things which the scripture forbids, and since it does not forbid the moderate use of alcoholic beverage, or good pipe tobacco for that matter, then I will smoke my piper and drink a cold Newcastle to the glory of God</p>
<p>If, however, God wanted Christian leaders not to drink, he would have told us, and when the apostle Paul had the perfect opportunity to restrict us from drinking alcoholic beverages at all, instead, he said that pastors and deacons should not be given to &#8220;much&#8221; wine.  I, sir, am not given to &#8220;much&#8221; wine, therefore, I am within the biblical standard and I will not try to be holier than the Bible.  And for the argument that good references to wine in the bible referred to non-alocholic grape juice, why in the world would God restrict pastors from drinking much grape juice?  It is actually quite good for the digestive system.</p>
<p>If the people in my care drink to excess, they will be accountable before God for their sinful behavior.  I am clear in my teaching that we are to appreciate the good gifts of God, without allowing those good gifts to become ultimate for us, which is sin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Missional Golf by cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about the body being the temple of the Holy Spirit?  Would you allow someone to bring beer and cigars to your next fellowship at church?
What about those in leadership not causing those who are weaker in the faith to stumble-maybe you don&#039;t have a problem with overindulging but what about those who do and then they are abusive, drive under the influence, etc. etc.  As a leader, you are held in a higher standard for your conduct, and may need to reevaluate if what you are &quot;eating and drinking&quot; is to the glory of God or if it is feeding the flesh----</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about the body being the temple of the Holy Spirit?  Would you allow someone to bring beer and cigars to your next fellowship at church?<br />
What about those in leadership not causing those who are weaker in the faith to stumble-maybe you don&#8217;t have a problem with overindulging but what about those who do and then they are abusive, drive under the influence, etc. etc.  As a leader, you are held in a higher standard for your conduct, and may need to reevaluate if what you are &#8220;eating and drinking&#8221; is to the glory of God or if it is feeding the flesh&#8212;-</p>
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